How to plan for retirement when you're living in the red and have debt
Carrying debt on a tight income leaves people trapped in a constant state of financial fight or flight while trying to figure out retirement. This overwhelming big-picture stress often leads to considering high-risk moves like 401(k) loans just to manage immediate cash flow gaps.
What people tried
Every workaround mentioned in the threads below. We haven’t tested any of them — and nobody here is claiming they worked.
- 1planning to work massive amounts of overtime and 14-hour days
- 2planning to pick up dozens of extra shifts to aggressively build savings and pay off debt
- 3planning to consult a financial expert later to handle investing
- 4Stopping or reducing 401k contributions temporarily beyond the company match
- 5Building an emergency fund instead of using retirement funds
- 6Shopping around for a regular vehicle refinance
In their words
Unedited, grouped by where they were said, most upvoted first within each place, each linked to the thread it came from.
“Ok, thank you, definitely keep reminding myself to take it a step at a time but I get overwhelmed by the big picture often”source ↗
“I have 3 months in savings, but more curious about the loan rather than a full withdrawal. Is it still penalized the same?”source ↗
“im a household of 3 single income unit. I make 33.95/hr... Yes I have debt and currently live in the red (ive never been good at or learned about finances.)”source ↗
“How realistic is any of this? Im looking for advice because right now being in the red i tend to be in a constant state of fight or flight”source ↗
“I also have a 401k with enough withdrawable funds to take a loan to pay off that loan and put a little back in my pocket for the same money I’m paying now.”source ↗
“It seems like a good idea, but I’m curious if I’m overlooking something other than just the lost investment for a few years.”source ↗
Where this came up
People with this problem also raised
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- 16When can I safely retire?
- 2How to minimize taxes on a large pre-tax retirement account and RMDs