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Is dark brown metal under paint copper?

Scratching away paint on a pipe often reveals a dark brown color instead of a shiny finish, leaving people unsure if the metal underneath is actually copper. This ambiguity makes it difficult to determine the actual pipe material or whether connections need to be cut out.

Overview
People affected5 accounts across 2 forums
Workarounds found9 items attempted
Community agreement22 total upvotes

What the numbers show

Counted from the threads quoted below. How we count

  • The most recent one is from October 2026.
  • This comes up 16.1× more often in r/Plumbing than across the site as a whole.

What people tried

Every workaround mentioned in the threads below. We haven’t tested any of them — and nobody here is claiming they worked.

Found another way around this?

Share your steps and trade-offs so fellow engineers don't have to reinvent the wheel. No account required.

  1. 1
    Scraping away paint to check the color
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  2. 2
    Sanding the oxidation to reveal shiny metal underneath
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  3. 3
    Checking if the pipe can be dented with a fingernail or crushed by hand
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  4. 4
    Leaving the connection alone if it is not leaking
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  5. 5
    Consulting a licensed plumber
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    Replacing the connection using a proper transition donut or gasket with lead and oakum, or using a fernco
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  7. 7
    guessing the pipe material or compatibility based on visual appearance
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  8. 8
    consulting online forums to identify unknown pipe types
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  9. 9
    Replace a 90-degree elbow further up the pipe with a tee and add an auto vent at the top instead of cutting the unknown pipe.
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In their words

Unedited, grouped by where they were said, most upvoted first within each place, each linked to the thread it came from.

r/Plumbing4 people · September 2026

“Is this an approved connection or should I cut out the hub and fernco?”source ↗

miakpaeroe · r/Plumbing · 8 upvotes

“I'm trying to replace the old shutoff valve since it was leaking, bought a compression valve meant for copper from Lowe's and came home to see this. Looks like a plastic tube with a metal insert.”source ↗

MarineR3con · r/Plumbing · 8 upvotes

“I scratched away the paint in the second pic and it was this brown colour under.”source ↗

PristinePea9377 · r/Plumbing · 1 upvotes

“Okay thanks but shouldn’t it be shiny if it’s copper this is like a dark brown”source ↗

PristinePea9377 · r/Plumbing · 1 upvotes

“Nah it’s hard like construction adhesive!”source ↗

miakpaeroe · r/Plumbing · 1 upvotes

“I stared at this for a solid minute trying to figure out what I'm even looking at.”source ↗

Empty_Tomato2780 · r/Plumbing · 1 upvotes
r/hvacadvice1 person · October 2026

“What's confusing me is the copper fittings are soldered onto it and I just haven't run into this before.”source ↗

“I'm afraid to cut into it and not be able to get a solder fitting to hold if I cut it.”source ↗

ChapterVirtual5581 · r/hvacadvice · 2 upvotes

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