Doing the job of a higher role without the promotion or pay
Companies often exploit employees by letting them take on duties far above their pay grade for years, only to pass them over for external hires or less-qualified candidates when promotions open up. This leaves workers trapped under toxic management expecting unrealistic output, forcing many to choose between burning out or quitting entirely.
What the numbers show
Counted from the threads quoted below. How we count
- Most of it landed at once — the busiest month was September 2026, with 31 people.
- This comes up 37.7× more often in r/nonprofit than across the site as a whole.
What people tried
Every workaround mentioned in the threads below. We haven’t tested any of them — and nobody here is claiming they worked.
Found another way around this?
Share your steps and trade-offs so fellow engineers don't have to reinvent the wheel. No account required.
- 1finding a new job2 people mentionedDid this help you?
- 2quitting abruptly without a new job lined upDid this help you?
- 3staying in the position while quietly checking out mentallyDid this help you?
- 4giving extended notice periods to coast through the final weeks without feeling responsible for outcomesDid this help you?
- 5relying on personal savings, a partner's income, or health insurance coverage to safely exit toxic environmentsDid this help you?
- 6looking for a new job or leaving the ecosystemDid this help you?
- 7venting in internal slack channelsDid this help you?
- 8Coaching the manager to follow corporate policy consistentlyDid this help you?
- 9Requiring documentation for any exceptions made to company policyDid this help you?
- 10Investigating whether the favored employee requires official accommodationsDid this help you?
- 11Resigning immediately without noticeDid this help you?
- 12Looking for a new job immediatelyDid this help you?
- 13Sending a public message calling out the managerDid this help you?
- 14Leaving the job for the private sectorDid this help you?
- 15Ventilating frustrations online to people who understandDid this help you?
- 16Searching /r/managers or /r/askamanager for similar concernsDid this help you?
- 17Following good employee accountability checklists and trying to be direct and transparentDid this help you?
- 18Deciding whether to put up with the culture or leaveDid this help you?
- 19leaving the firm for another company that uses straightforward title structuresDid this help you?
- 20accepting the title change while moving to a different firmDid this help you?
- 21staying calm and acting like recruiters reaching out is normalDid this help you?
- 22planning to leave the company quicklyDid this help you?
- 23ignoring the incident and focusing on work until finding a new jobDid this help you?
- 24Going to therapyDid this help you?
- 25Getting back in the gym or finding physical exerciseDid this help you?
- 26requesting the written company policy rather than the oral versionDid this help you?
- 27leaving work for the day to clear one's headDid this help you?
- 28considering resignationDid this help you?
- 29throwing axes to process frustrationDid this help you?
- 30Quit and start your own practiceDid this help you?
- 31Start looking for another job outside of public accountingDid this help you?
- 32Leaving the district or planning for this to be their last year teaching thereDid this help you?
- 33Smiling and laughing it offDid this help you?
- 34Treating work strictly transactionally and only moving jobs for more moneyDid this help you?
- 35Keeping ears to the ground and remembering who to trustDid this help you?
- 36Actively interviewing elsewhereDid this help you?
- 37Planning a sit-down conversation with the manager to discuss expectationsDid this help you?
- 38Avoiding reporting petty complaints like eye rolling to the CEO to protect personal credibilityDid this help you?
- 39Suggesting neutral interventions like management training so the issue isn't completely ignoredDid this help you?
- 40Explaining organizational risks to leadershipDid this help you?
- 41Blaming oneself and trying to improve soft skillsDid this help you?
- 42Considering leaving the current workplace instead of forcing oneself to adaptDid this help you?
- 43Doing the best they can despite the lack of supportDid this help you?
- 44Ventilating frustrations on online forumsDid this help you?
- 45finding another job to be happierDid this help you?
- 46switching to bigger firms where there are more locations or teams to move aroundDid this help you?
- 47trying to juggle work responsibilities during personal tragediesDid this help you?
- 48working 70+ hours a week without taking breaks or lunchesDid this help you?
- 49attempting to coordinate backup coverage through colleagues or adminsDid this help you?
- 50Considering looking for a new role in a tough job marketDid this help you?
- 51Looking for work elsewhereDid this help you?
- 52Rolling with it and trying to be very careful while searching for a new jobDid this help you?
- 53Keeping your head down, focusing on tasks, and believing in yourselfDid this help you?
- 54Considering returning to a previous company for a lower-level senior accountant roleDid this help you?
- 55Trying to negotiate matching salary while keeping the controller titleDid this help you?
- 56forcing them to put everything in writingDid this help you?
- 57Being extremely nice and professionalDid this help you?
- 58Trying to stay out of the CEO's wayDid this help you?
- 59Looking for a better job / polishing up the resumeDid this help you?
In their words
Unedited, grouped by where they were said, most upvoted first within each place, each linked to the thread it came from.
“I quit! Without going into detail, I was performing many duties of a role above my pay grade for a couple years. When the opportunity came to promote me into the role, they hired external instead.”source ↗
“Not too long ago I was so fed up with the bs in my nonprofit job that I quit. Eight years plus, six figure salary, not worth it.”source ↗
“I was doing the work of 3 people. I know, because they had to hire 3 people to cover my responsibilities after I left.”source ↗
“Following the service- my CEO calls me SCREAMING and degrading me saying “she’s sorry for my loss but this isn’t an entry level role and I can’t treat it as such and I’ve disrespected her by making her looking dumb. And my inefficient emails to her were not ample enough warning”.”source ↗
“Nine years ago I was in a toxic situation with management expecting miracles from me and the team I managed. When I gave a realistic reaction to what they were demanding, I was written up for not being a team player and not being positive enough.”source ↗
“10 years, last 4 taking on VP responsibilities without the pay, and just found out another person with less experience and no industry credential was promoted to the same level as me.”source ↗
“The nightmare boss finally left but my confidence is shot.”source ↗
“They took every opportunity to cut me down and continued to tell me I wasn't good enough and neither are my staff.”source ↗
“How do you rebuild confidence after a monster boss?”source ↗
“I started this NPO job several months ago. At first, it seemed great! I have 10 YoE and decided, once one of my contracts came to an end, I wanted to pivot to a new mission and focus as opposed to finding more contracts. I did, but now I'm feeling a lot of regret.”source ↗
“I have a few different managers of varying experience levels and I often feel like I'm being set up to fail by all but 1.”source ↗
“I keep blaming myself and finding where I can fix things. Ive not encountered an issue like this before and its really taking a toll on me.”source ↗
“The CEO at my org feels like my biggest bully- to the point that I cried at work last week.”source ↗
“She is my biggest bully, making sure that I never get thanked or credited for my work, she will compliment every single person in a room besides me, she won’t look me in the eye”source ↗
“I don’t know what to do as it feels like she’s trying to drive me out.”source ↗
“Do you have anything else lined up? I am chained to golden handcuffs, still living paycheck to paycheck (divorce, etc). I feel like I’m losing my sanity but can’t afford to lose my job.”source ↗
“I have had great bosses, but my confidence has been shot because of the mental health issues and I just don't feel like I've ever fully bounced back.”source ↗
“So many mental health things have been triggered for me.”source ↗
“So I get random LinkedIn message from a recruiter who I have never heard of last week.”source ↗
“The recruiter that reached out to me is his admin assistants best friend from college and he wanted to test me if I was looking to test the market.”source ↗
“Our team admin is retiring soon. Our team lead spent months trying to get her fired and building a paper trail against her. Now that same lead is hosting the retirement party at her house for the whole team.”source ↗
“Everyone’s acting like it’s normal. I can’t stop seeing how hypocritical it is. Is this just corporate life? Am I the problem for being bothered by it?”source ↗
“How do you all deal with this?”source ↗
“This is the feedback I received today when I asked if my company would reimburse me for the exam. I got a five minute spiel about the expense of the clothes and makeup required to be client facing.”source ↗
“I currently work in Industry and my role "doesn't require" a CPA (i'm an analyst) but I was also shot down getting am FMVA.”source ↗
“The main problem with nepotism, is that any given nepo hire thinks they are gaining the same experience as everyone else. They are not.”source ↗
“I know this isn't a new revelation, I just needed to vent.”source ↗
“The calls after working hours, late-night messages, delayed paychecks, and accusations that I wasn't moving projects forward all contributed to this decision.”source ↗
“Also, being told, "I need more from your position to justify the salary," caused me a lot of unnecessary stress.”source ↗
“That’s the most toxic shit I’ve ever heard of… you need to get out of there ASAP.”source ↗
“feels like a half-step promotion they made up so they can say they gave you something without actually bumping your pay band to senior level”source ↗
“I am stuck under a toxic & egoistic senior manager who also happens to be an ACcouting puritan. He always downplays anything do and exaggerates all my mistakes beyond sane logic.”source ↗
“He expects "expertise" from me, an entry level associate, and berates me in the sweetest corporate talk possible when I make mistakes. Mistakes which are natural for a beginner.”source ↗
“It has happened multiple times that he claims he told me to do something but I have no memory of hearing it. ldk maybe he is gaslighting me. This has made me question my memory & sanity at times.”source ↗
“I’ve worked in public accounting for almost 4 years now. This past year has been the hardest emotionally, and I’m torn between my love for continuous learning and technical growth and being treated like crap by partners because the WIP is too high.”source ↗
“I work as a senior accountant doing month end close and most of the issues that come from my job comes from the AP department. Last month they closed on 9/22 for August which makes our close slow and frustrating.”source ↗
“With this behavior and lack of internal controls for AP, would it be enough to consider another role? I know it’s a tough job market but there has to be a decent manager and a company that can close on time out there somewhere.”source ↗
“CBIZ is honestly so full of shit. I’m glad I left last year. I work somewhere else, where, they do not do that “experienced” crap. You go from associate to senior.”source ↗
“Fake promotion, CBIZ also does "supervisor" in between senior and manager. It's hilarious.”source ↗
“I am a manager of a PM team. My current boss publicly humiliates people (vaguely but it’s obvious who the person is and they know it’s their work that is being publicly shamed). my boss always sides with the customer at face value. my boss is also blame-oriented, looking for reasons to target someone internally, and has explicitly said they believe in fear to motivate people to change. My entire team is very distressed.”source ↗
“I have also heard the schpiel about fear from bosses - my last one operated on this principle, also. I guess, my only advice would be very very careful of this person while you find somewhere that treats you with decency. I was very badly harmed by this person in my life because I underestimated how far they’d go to harm me.”source ↗
“It just happens every day, a new belittling and humiliating message and it sickens me”source ↗
“I’m in my final 5 business days of the worst HR job I’ve had up to this point, and ofc nothing is getting easier on my way out.”source ↗
“My mental health is tanking and my anxiety is through the roof because of these things that have come up.”source ↗
“I’m so miserable.”source ↗
“I ignored that a red flag is when I come home in tears about 2 months in.”source ↗
“Late that same day she calls me in and hands me not one, but TWO full ass write ups.”source ↗
“I felt like a child.”source ↗
“I called her and told her I cant work the rest of the day because my judgement is bad because I can't trust it right now.”source ↗
“One of our managers clearly seems to favour one particular employee.”source ↗
“Another employee made a similar mistake and was pulled into a meeting and given a fairly serious warning. That employee later came to HR and said they felt they were being treated differently.”source ↗
“I raised the inconsistency with the manager, but they basically said they know the employee well and that there are “reasons” for being more flexible with them.”source ↗
“I’m the HR director and the CEO is my boss. There’s a new manager that also reports to the CEO. Managers, executives, and line staff are coming to me complaining about this manager: doesn’t respect chain of command, condescending, abrasive, etc.”source ↗
“This Manager is extremely defensive and has a habit of filing complaints on everyone she has a difficult conversation with. She essentially files a complaint on them, with the CEO, before they can file a complaint against her.”source ↗
“What do I do? I feel caught in a very awkward place and new territory. I don’t feel I can go to the CEO about this manager, but I also feel like I have an obligation as HR to report these complaints against this Manager to the CEO.”source ↗
“If you want advancement in the leasing world, this company will make you wait 3-4 years, you want to be the lead leasing agent?”source ↗
“Corporate management says one thing and the ownership group says the complete opposite. Nothings ever good enough. They never appreciate us or acknowledge good things.”source ↗
“PMs are pulled in every direction and blamed for everything.”source ↗
“The passive aggressive emails are the worst part, like just say what you want instead of wrapping it in three layers of "we're disappointed."”source ↗
“The nepotism thing is everywhere in property management though, seen it at like 3 companies already”source ↗
“Every policy that gets created is done to hurt teachers rather than help them.”source ↗
“This year our district has begun to dock teacher pay if a teacher has to take more than two personal days.”source ↗
“Twenty years in and that's the thanks you get.”source ↗
Where this came up
People with this problem also raised
- 15How to deal with a manager who is confidently wrong
- 8How to survive a toxic and micromanaging workplace
- 9Why is handling employee relations so overwhelming?
- 9Why do recruiters ghost and waste time during a job search?
- 13How to deal with toxic leadership during company layoffs
- 6Passed over for a promotion because I'm too valuable