Why is project management just doing admin and updating trackers?
Over-reliance on software and rigid frameworks has turned leadership and problem-solving roles into repetitive data entry and task management. Instead of running projects end-to-end and bridging gaps, managers spend hours updating trackers, building templates, and acting as a walking link directory for unused reports, which stops them from actually managing the work.
What people tried
Every workaround mentioned in the threads below. We haven’t tested any of them — and nobody here is claiming they worked.
- 1Feeding systems and filling out status reports and trackers instead of talking to people
- 2Connecting people on Slack and serving as a walking link directory
- 3Building templates and translating tool activity into management updates
- 4Building custom automation to update notes based on call recordings and emails
- 5Avoiding or ignoring default tool setups
- 6Switching to systems with built-in AI call summaries and automated activity logging
- 7game or ignore the CRM system
- 8use copy-paste jobs for required notes
- 9remove executive vanity fields and unnecessary required fields
- 10use AI agents and call recordings to auto-populate deal fields
- 11Using JotForm or Typeform combined with manual entry
- 12Using third-party platforms like Ramp
- 13Using Google Forms with Google Apps Script to create vendor records
- 14Spending hours troubleshooting minor administrative or formatting issues manually
- 15Using AI to shortcut reporting tasks and generate updates
- 16Rewriting reports by hand to make them tolerable
- 17pushing back on central where possible
- 18shielding project managers from governance
- 19Complaining and making them simplify the reporting process
- 20Letting the projects suffer while filling out PowerPoint slides
- 21quietly skipping steps when deadlines approach
- 22challenging new processes by asking for the root cause and the clear why
- 23using digital channels and AI to cut down documentation turnaround time
- 24bypassing process under pressure
In their words
Unedited, most upvoted first, each linked to the thread it came from.
“A lot of companies still onboard vendors through email chains, PDFs, spreadsheets, and endless follow-ups.”source ↗
“Anyone else fighting this battle? Or am I just yelling into the void?”source ↗
“Instead of one obvious failure everyone can point to, you get slower turnaround, people quietly skipping steps when the deadline's breathing down their neck, or a doc nobody's actually opened since the day it was written, sitting there giving everyone false comfort”source ↗
“A bad PMO will create excessive, unneccesary metric that turn PMs into "spreadsheet jockeys".”source ↗
“If as a PM you have to choose getting your report in on time over moving the project forward, that’s likely the breaking point between a good PMO and a bad PMO.”source ↗
“Sr Product Manager here and I absolutely abhor the process overhead that has creeped up over time.”source ↗
“as an example, I spend 2/5 of my work week just doing reporting busywork. Not creating anything of value, not talking to customers, not unblocking my team, not designing and running experiments and validations. Just reporting.”source ↗
“I moved to a new company and went from previously running my own projects end-to-end to be an admin and builds templates.”source ↗
“I used to own programs. I was respected as a leader and a manager. My teams generally did their work, and I existed to bridge gaps, manage risk, align dependencies, and stand between the working team and leadership. At my new job, I get questions, and then connect two different people on Slack. I know where the documents are, like, 30% of the time, which is a lot more than most people, so I become a walking link directory. I collect what happens in 50 Slack channels into a single meeting agenda. I'm not a program manager anymore. I'm not even a project manager. I'm a fucking task manager.”source ↗
“Instead of having conversations they want to solve every problem with a tracker. I suggest one 30 minute meeting a month to make sure things are on track and I get “why don’t we build a tracker”. I can’t keep track of all the things that need to be updated. Can’t I just spend my time tracking the actual project?”source ↗
“where the PMO governance model added 3 months to the delivery of a program of work because of the mandatory reporting requirements”source ↗
“Some introducing our PMO, the amount of reporting we have to do has increased substantially. Earlier this year before we complained and made them simplify it, I was reporting to like 10 different places every month.”source ↗
“Introducing the PMO around a year ago just introduced a pile of extra gateways and paperwork that nobody understands the purpose of due to complexity, without any support or quality assurance for our actual work.”source ↗
“Having run sales teams and marketing as a founder, you do need a CRM but the tedious part is to fill everything manually and hoping teams will do it too.”source ↗
“I've had a standup argument with one PMO manager who tried to impose a process which turned out to be a PMO's functional responsibility”source ↗
“As I’ve progressed and now lead enterprise level programs/projects - half my time for sure is just doing updates and PowerPoints.”source ↗
“I spend an hours a week just updating all my projects in service now so management can manage demand and workloads. I complete 2 status reports that aren’t used or read.”source ↗
“The amount of "work about work" we do is outrageous. At my company I'd say conservatively we spend 60% of our time just tracking and reporting.”source ↗
“Your delivery PMO is likely just as frustrated by excessive project controls as you are”source ↗
“spent two hours this week on an invoice formatting issue. two hours. on formatting.”source ↗
“A sales man keep saying "i don't have the time ,it's too much". And I keep wonder ,is it bad to ask them telling us where are they going and why?”source ↗
“If a required field doesn’t help move the deal forward, it becomes 'call – went well.'”source ↗
“Instead of resolving the problem at hand, they created a new one - a huge and unnecessary bottle neck that everyone hated and no one respected.”source ↗
“I’m on a project and there is absolutely no need for a PMO. They have no domain knowledge that is relevant so they have no capacity to provide process that is relevant. If i could change something i would eliminate the PMO.”source ↗
“I don’t know my experience a PMO and a PM has been kind of a useless position. It would be better served to have more staff to do the work than someone to report on the Work getting done.”source ↗
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