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Why is project management just doing admin and updating trackers?

Over-reliance on software and rigid frameworks has turned leadership and problem-solving roles into repetitive data entry and task management. Instead of running projects end-to-end and bridging gaps, managers spend hours updating trackers, building templates, and acting as a walking link directory for unused reports, which stops them from actually managing the work.

Overview
People affected22 accounts across 6 forums
Workarounds found25 items attempted
Community agreement238 total upvotes

What the numbers show

Counted from the threads quoted below. How we count

  • Most of it landed at once — the busiest month was September 2026, with 14 people.
  • This comes up 198.2× more often in r/projectmanagement than across the site as a whole.

What people tried

Every workaround mentioned in the threads below. We haven’t tested any of them — and nobody here is claiming they worked.

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    Feeding systems and filling out status reports and trackers instead of talking to people
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    Connecting people on Slack and serving as a walking link directory
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    Building templates and translating tool activity into management updates
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    Building custom automation to update notes based on call recordings and emails
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    Avoiding or ignoring default tool setups
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    Switching to systems with built-in AI call summaries and automated activity logging
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    game or ignore the CRM system
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    use copy-paste jobs for required notes
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    remove executive vanity fields and unnecessary required fields
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    use AI agents and call recordings to auto-populate deal fields
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    Using JotForm or Typeform combined with manual entry
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    Using third-party platforms like Ramp
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    Using Google Forms with Google Apps Script to create vendor records
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    Spending hours troubleshooting minor administrative or formatting issues manually
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    Using AI to shortcut reporting tasks and generate updates
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    Rewriting reports by hand to make them tolerable
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    pushing back on central where possible
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    shielding project managers from governance
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    Complaining and making them simplify the reporting process
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    Letting the projects suffer while filling out PowerPoint slides
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    quietly skipping steps when deadlines approach
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    challenging new processes by asking for the root cause and the clear why
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    using digital channels and AI to cut down documentation turnaround time
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    bypassing process under pressure
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    Checking work in excel and then faking the paper notes to satisfy physical filing requirements
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In their words

Unedited, grouped by where they were said, most upvoted first within each place, each linked to the thread it came from.

r/Netsuite1 person · July 2026

“A lot of companies still onboard vendors through email chains, PDFs, spreadsheets, and endless follow-ups.”source ↗

IntelligentCrow6421 · r/Netsuite · 44 upvotes
r/hubspot3 people · February 2026

“Anyone else fighting this battle? Or am I just yelling into the void?”source ↗

CRM_Operator · r/hubspot · 31 upvotes

“A sales man keep saying "i don't have the time ,it's too much". And I keep wonder ,is it bad to ask them telling us where are they going and why?”source ↗

GtXSA · r/hubspot · 1 upvotes

“If a required field doesn’t help move the deal forward, it becomes 'call – went well.'”source ↗

Strange-Durian2644 · r/hubspot · 1 upvotes
r/projectmanagement15 people · December 2025 – September 2026

“Instead of one obvious failure everyone can point to, you get slower turnaround, people quietly skipping steps when the deadline's breathing down their neck, or a doc nobody's actually opened since the day it was written, sitting there giving everyone false comfort”source ↗

Low-Travel4471 · r/projectmanagement · 25 upvotes

“A bad PMO will create excessive, unneccesary metric that turn PMs into "spreadsheet jockeys".”source ↗

Original-Track-4828 · r/projectmanagement · 20 upvotes

“If as a PM you have to choose getting your report in on time over moving the project forward, that’s likely the breaking point between a good PMO and a bad PMO.”source ↗

Pew-Pew-You · r/projectmanagement · 19 upvotes

“Sr Product Manager here and I absolutely abhor the process overhead that has creeped up over time.”source ↗

“as an example, I spend 2/5 of my work week just doing reporting busywork. Not creating anything of value, not talking to customers, not unblocking my team, not designing and running experiments and validations. Just reporting.”source ↗

rollingSleepyPanda · r/projectmanagement · 17 upvotes

“I moved to a new company and went from previously running my own projects end-to-end to be an admin and builds templates.”source ↗

DCAnt1379 · r/projectmanagement · 14 upvotes

“I used to own programs. I was respected as a leader and a manager. My teams generally did their work, and I existed to bridge gaps, manage risk, align dependencies, and stand between the working team and leadership. At my new job, I get questions, and then connect two different people on Slack. I know where the documents are, like, 30% of the time, which is a lot more than most people, so I become a walking link directory. I collect what happens in 50 Slack channels into a single meeting agenda. I'm not a program manager anymore. I'm not even a project manager. I'm a fucking task manager.”source ↗

painterknittersimmer · r/projectmanagement · 12 upvotes

“Instead of having conversations they want to solve every problem with a tracker. I suggest one 30 minute meeting a month to make sure things are on track and I get “why don’t we build a tracker”. I can’t keep track of all the things that need to be updated. Can’t I just spend my time tracking the actual project?”source ↗

MagicPants07 · r/projectmanagement · 11 upvotes

“where the PMO governance model added 3 months to the delivery of a program of work because of the mandatory reporting requirements”source ↗

More_Law6245 · r/projectmanagement · 9 upvotes

“Some introducing our PMO, the amount of reporting we have to do has increased substantially. Earlier this year before we complained and made them simplify it, I was reporting to like 10 different places every month.”source ↗

“Introducing the PMO around a year ago just introduced a pile of extra gateways and paperwork that nobody understands the purpose of due to complexity, without any support or quality assurance for our actual work.”source ↗

Rosyface_ · r/projectmanagement · 9 upvotes

“I've had a standup argument with one PMO manager who tried to impose a process which turned out to be a PMO's functional responsibility”source ↗

More_Law6245 · r/projectmanagement · 8 upvotes

“As I’ve progressed and now lead enterprise level programs/projects - half my time for sure is just doing updates and PowerPoints.”source ↗

Monster213213 · r/projectmanagement · 7 upvotes

“I spend an hours a week just updating all my projects in service now so management can manage demand and workloads. I complete 2 status reports that aren’t used or read.”source ↗

jthmniljt · r/projectmanagement · 4 upvotes

“The amount of "work about work" we do is outrageous. At my company I'd say conservatively we spend 60% of our time just tracking and reporting.”source ↗

painterknittersimmer · r/projectmanagement · 4 upvotes

“Your delivery PMO is likely just as frustrated by excessive project controls as you are”source ↗

arathergenericgay · r/projectmanagement · 2 upvotes

“Instead of resolving the problem at hand, they created a new one - a huge and unnecessary bottle neck that everyone hated and no one respected.”source ↗

Fluffy-Leg7546 · r/projectmanagement · 1 upvotes

“I’m on a project and there is absolutely no need for a PMO. They have no domain knowledge that is relevant so they have no capacity to provide process that is relevant. If i could change something i would eliminate the PMO.”source ↗

Puzzleheaded-Offer88 · r/projectmanagement

“I don’t know my experience a PMO and a PM has been kind of a useless position. It would be better served to have more staff to do the work than someone to report on the Work getting done.”source ↗

EnixTheIronPhx · r/projectmanagement
r/nonprofit1 person · September 2026

“The saddest thing is the biggest condition of my review is that I stop trying to innovate and accept all systems and processes as is.”source ↗

“I feel like all inspiration and drive has been killed by this one positive but discouraging annual review.”source ↗

NyanKate420 · r/nonprofit · 15 upvotes
r/CRM1 person · August 2026

“Having run sales teams and marketing as a founder, you do need a CRM but the tedious part is to fill everything manually and hoping teams will do it too.”source ↗

ummm_thereyougo · r/CRM · 8 upvotes
r/Entrepreneur1 person · September 2026

“spent two hours this week on an invoice formatting issue. two hours. on formatting.”source ↗

StrikingLychee587 · r/Entrepreneur · 1 upvotes

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